We’re wrapping up Season Three of Out Travel the System on an extremely high note – by interviewing none other than Ryan Reynolds and Rob McElhenney! Although you may know them best from their antics on both the small and big screen, the topic at hand is their new project, Wrexham AFC – one of the oldest football clubs in the world.
Listen in to our last episode of the season as they talk about their business bromance with host Nisreene Atassi, ably supported by Wrexham AFC executive director Humphrey Ker. The fellas talk about what they sincerely admire about each other, their hopes for the team, and what there is to check out in town, should you have the opportunity to go to northern Wales to watch a match in person.
Along the way, they share details about some of their favorite travel memories (why is Ryan running around Paris at 3 am), poke fun at Humphrey, and drop a few cusswords (please don’t mind the bleeps.) They also confirm why they’re likely to be using Expedia in the near future!
Ryan Reynolds and Rob McElhenney welcome you to Wrexham
Nisreene Atassi: Hey, everyone, Nisreene Atassi here with an amazing episode of Out Travel the System for you. Our last one of the season, and believe me, we saved the best for last. I wanted to give you a bit of background on the episode before we get underway. Expedia believes that sports and travel often go hand in hand, which is why we work with sports teams and clubs around the globe, including Wrexham A. F. C., one of the oldest football clubs in the world. And here’s a very cool perk that comes from being Wrexham’s official travel companion. We got to sit down and chat with their new owners, Ryan Reynolds and Rob McElhenney. I flew down to LA, and we actually got to record face- to- face in studio together. It’s an extended conversation about their new venture, and what they love about travel. So, here it is, bleeps and all, enjoy!
Nisreene Atassi: So, I actually don’t talk about my husband that often on the show, but he essentially has two major passions in life (aside from me, of course) — music and soccer. So, when Expedia started exploring new partnerships with professional soccer teams, I got it. It was super easy for me to see the connection between sports and travel because, well, my husband lives it, and by association, so do I. Every time we head to a new destination, the first thing my husband does is check to see if there’s a soccer match going on. So, whether it was catching Zlatan’s last game at Paris Saint- Germain, or finally getting to see Messi play in Barcelona, t he excitement was unreal, and it truly adds a special touch to any trip. So, today, on Out Travel the System, we’re going to talk a little about a town in Wales called Wrexham, home of one of the oldest soccer clubs in the world, and the epic journey this quaint little town is about to go on. And to do that, I had to bring on some very special guests with me. These are probably some of the ugliest people I’ve ever had on the show. So, good thing that this is actually a podcast. But I’ve got with me, Ryan Reynolds and Rob McElhenney, the new owners of Wrexham A. F. C. Welcome to the show, you guys!
Ryan Reynolds: What an intro.
Rob McElhenney: Thank you, it’s good to be here.
Ryan Reynolds: Rob is butt ugly. You got that right.
Nisreene Atassi: Yeah.
Rob McElhenney: Yeah. I get that a lot.
Nisreene Atassi: Well, listen, since Rob and Ryan are still getting their feet wet with owning a professional sports team, I also had to bring on the show, Humphrey Ker, the executive director of the club, and what I can only assume is the brains behind this entire operation. So, welcome to the show, Humphrey.
Humphrey Ker: Well, I’m also delighted with my introduction. It’s very spoiling.
Nisreene Atassi: Yeah.
Ryan Reynolds: And handsome.
Nisreene Atassi: Yeah. I try to really set the tone here with this one. Yeah.
Ryan Reynolds: Tall drink of water.
Humphrey Ker: Lots of compliments early on.
Nisreene Atassi: Actually, the best- looking person in the room, for sure.
Rob McElhenney: Can I just point out very quickly, if we continue to call this particular sport soccer, we’re going to be in big trouble.
Nisreene Atassi: Yeah. So, that’s actually my first question because before we really dive into this, I feel like we need to decide on whether we’re going to call it soccer or football, because it’s going to get really confusing for our listeners. But to be fair, I do feel like it’s kind of embarrassing to call it soccer in front of a British person. So, I don’t want to personally offend Humphrey, but I also just feel like we all need to align on it. So, what are we doing? What are we calling it?
Ryan Reynolds: Oh no no no, it’s football, guys. I’m from Canada. So, we say Canadian football when we’re talking about Canadian football. I say American football when I’m talking about the NFL. And then, just football is soccer.
Rob McElhenney: In Canada?
Ryan Reynolds: No, no, in Canada, soccer is soccer. But just so that when we go to Wrexham, I’m just always going to say to be, for insurance, football.
Nisreene Atassi: Yeah, that’s pretty good.
Rob McElhenney: Yes.
Nisreene Atassi: That’s a good choice.
Humphrey Ker: I think especially for a podcast about travel, hopefully, many of your listeners will want to visit Wrexham, where they should almost certainly refer to it as football.
Nisreene Atassi: Well, they will after they listen to this show then.
Ryan Reynolds: I’ll say. Yeah.
Nisreene Atassi: All right. So, let’s start from the very beginning. Ryan, I hear your friendship actually started when Rob slid into your DMs. Do you want to spill the tea on that one a little bit?
Ryan Reynolds: No, no. I slid into his DMs.
Nisreene Atassi: Oh, you slid into his DMs.
Ryan Reynolds: Oh, my God, yeah. Are you kidding me?
Rob McElhenney: How quickly, how quickly the story changes.
Ryan Reynolds: I know. I forget what the initial reason. I’d seen an episode of his show that I found to be particularly inspiring and beautiful.
Humphrey Ker: It was a late night, you were lonely.
Ryan Reynolds: I slid into his DMs, and I wrote, ” Powder my bottom and put me to bed.” No, I’m sorry, that’s I think what my-
Rob McElhenney: Well, I immediately went to expedia.com and I was looking for flights to New York.
Ryan Reynolds: I saw this episode of It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia, and he was inspiring in it. And I got to this place in my life a while back, where if I found something to be really beautiful or interesting or inspiring, I say something. If you have the means to tell someone that something that they did was profoundly moving, say something without expectation back, without expecting him to even respond. So, I saw this episode, and I DM’ed him, just that I thought that was the most beautiful thing I’d ever seen on television, and he DM’ed me back. And then, we became digital friends, which later turned into real- life human friends.
Nisreene Atassi: Yeah, I love that. That’s how the world works these days, I guess. But Rob, you actually were the one that came up with the idea of buying a football club to start. Obviously, there’s so much passion, drama, and tradition associated with football. But North Americans, I don’t think actually really get it. Why were you so attracted to buying a football club to begin with?
Rob McElhenney: Well, that actually starts with Humphrey. So, Humphrey is one of the writers on my show, Mythic Quest. And he is a massive football fan. And I’m a massive fan of sports in general. And so, when we would come into the writer’s room, Humphrey would oftentimes be wearing his Liverpool jersey. And obviously, I’ve had friends my entire life who were football fans, but it just never really… I just never really connected with it on the way that, but I recognize that there are billions of people across the planet that do. So, I decided, well, we were in the middle of a pandemic. And I was looking for things to watch, there were no sports really to watch. So, I just went back and started watching documentaries or old games. And what I started to see, not necessarily was the games themselves as super interesting at first, but the stories behind them, just like anything else, where I became invested in the clubs because I was invested in the people who supported those clubs, or the towns. And then, when I came across Wrexham, they looked to me a lot like… the town itself looks a lot to me like the City of Philadelphia. Yeah, it’s a working class town. It’s a blue collar town, and they have such a passionate love for their club.
Nisreene Atassi: Yeah. I love that. And I think that’s true. Those documentaries are really, really good at bringing in the heritage and the tradition, which I feel like is a huge part of European football. So, Ryan, what was Rob’s elevator pitch to you when he came to you with the idea of joining him on this endeavor?
Ryan Reynolds: Rob is someone who is obscenely innovative. And I say that because when you said elevator pitch, it wasn’t an elevator pitch. It was really well thought out. Everything that he wanted to do was… I always think when somebody comes up with a brilliant idea, there’s a like, of course, element to it, of course, this was hidden in plain sight, like, of course. And when he came to me with this particular idea, I got it instantly. I really, really understood it completely. I suppose my only reservations were to make sure that when we go into this endeavor that we’re not trying to be the smartest guys in the room, that we really understand that the people who really worshipped at the altar of this sport for so many centuries, and the people of Wrexham have really forgotten more about football than we will ever know. So, that we were going into it with a willingness, and yearning to learn, and experience something, but also a real genuine love of community. That’s what a huge part of this is, and the thing that I love about sport, is it’s all storytelling. It’s all context. So, the players in the National League, players on… these guys don’t have million- dollar salaries that they’re going to fall back on, everybody’s playing for their lives. And it really is a very passionate and exciting game to watch. It really is a different kind of level. So, once we dug into this, I just saw it was such a beautiful avenue for storytelling. It was an incredible opportunity to grow a community, and a club simultaneously, which to me, I thought was the most unique part of the endeavor .
Nisreene Atassi: Yeah. Rob, what made you think of Ryan? I heard you actually were thinking about him in the shower.
Rob McElhenney: Actually, this time, it is true. I was thinking about… well, first of all, I love working with my friends. If there’s anything that I’ve learned over the years is that at the end of the day, you create something, you make something, and then it’s 22 minutes or an hour and a half, and it goes out in to the universe, and it’s over. And if you didn’t enjoy the process along the way, then it was a waste, essentially. It doesn’t matter what you create, because that’s not your life. Your Life isn’t what you’ve created. It’s the actual act of creation. So, Sunny, Mythic Quest, some of the other things that I work on, these are my best friends, and in some cases, family members. And so, I just know that when I want to branch out and do something else, I always like to do it with people that I know already, or that I know that I’ll get along with. And yet, when I looked at something like this, I thought, ” Well, I think I need to grow… for this to truly work, we need to grow the exposure exponentially, certainly from me, and from where I stand publicly.” And so, my first thought was going to Ryan as a sponsor because he owns Aviation Gin, and I thought, ” Wow, there’s a lot of clubs that will have liquor companies, alcohol brands to sponsor the club.”
So, I thought, ” Wow, that would be really cool, and I think he would get it immediately.” And so, before I sent him a text or an email, I just gave it a night, and I thought about it. And then, the next morning, I was thinking in the shower, and I came out, and my wife was in the bathroom. And I said, ” Hey, do you think this would be a great experience if I asked Ryan if he’d be interested in partnering with me on this?” And she said, ” If you think that your ego could handle that, like sharing…”
Nisreene Atassi: Can it handle it?
Rob McElhenney: Well, no.
Nisreene Atassi: Yeah, okay.
Rob McElhenney: Yeah, well, no.
Nisreene Atassi: It’s okay. This is a really great episode to be truthful, yeah.
Rob McElhenney: But again, that’s part of the… for me, it’s part of the fun, and it’s also, I think, if I’m making decisions on what I want to do, what I want to work on, or how I want to live based on whether or not it satiates my ego, then I’m going to be in trouble, or if I can look at a project and say, ” Wow, bringing somebody like that and,” would elevate this thing in so many different ways, not just exposure, but because he truly is all of the things that you expect him to be.
And people, I think, have an idea of who Ryan is based on his public persona, and it’s pretty much what you get. He really is all the stories you hear about him, he really is brilliant, and really kind, and innovative, and the kind of person you want to spend time with, and a family man. And so, I’m just like, ” Well, let me just reach out and see if this would be something he would be into.”
And so, I wrote an email, and I sent it that night. And I woke up in the middle of the night as I oftentimes do, and I saw-
Ryan Reynolds: What have I done?
Rob McElhenney: I looked at my phone, and he had responded at 5: 30 AM your time.
Nisreene Atassi: Oh, my God, that’s so eager.
Rob McElhenney: So, 2: 30 my time.
Nisreene Atassi: You’ve been out of the dating scene for a while.
Ryan Reynolds: I don’t play cool. Even when I was single, I don’t play cool.
Nisreene Atassi: Yeah, okay. So, you responded right away, no questions asked?
Ryan Reynolds: Nothing great was ever made without enthusiasm.
Rob McElhenney: Yeah.
Ryan Reynolds: I got it right away. I saw the kind of thinker Rob is, and that’s what you’re really going into business with is, who is this guy? Is he somebody who finishes what he starts, and is he somebody who sticks with it? Everything about him is that.
He’s on his 198th season of Always Sunny in Philadelphia, while simultaneously shooting, producing, writing, starring in another show called Mythic Quest for Apple TV. That’s a person who understands work ethic. And so, to me, that was everything, and the idea itself was just so irresistible.
Nisreene Atassi: You guys really love each other.
Ryan Reynolds: Really do.
Nisreene Atassi: It’s really a love fest.
Ryan Reynolds: We get along great, and I think we’re lucky to have a real respect for each other as well, aside from just liking each other, that’s easy. I genuinely respect Rob in the way he operates in life and work.
Nisreene Atassi: Well, how’s it been going? You feel like you know what you’re doing, like running the club?
Ryan Reynolds: Absolutely not.
Rob McElhenney: No, no, well, he’s been a monster from the second that I’ve thought-
Nisreene Atassi: That’s what I figured.
Rob McElhenney: No, it’s been amazing. Has it been exactly the way that we thought it would go, no, but I think that’s part of the fun.
Ryan Reynolds: Yeah.
Nisreene Atassi: Humphrey, what’s it been like for you working with these two guys?
Humphrey Ker: Great. Very good.
Nisreene Atassi: Do you feel like you have to rein them in ever or?
Rob McElhenney: Well, we are his boss.
Humphrey Ker: What else am I going to say?
Nisreene Atassi: Yeah. I don’t know. I feel like everyone’s been spilling the truth so far. So, it just feels like it’s a good opportunity for you to air your grievances if you want.
Humphrey Ker: Well, if there’s some sort of diplomatic immunity afforded by your podcast, I can really get into it.
Nisreene Atassi: Definitely, I’m pretty sure I have that authority.
Humphrey Ker: It’s been a nightmare from start to finish.
Ryan Reynolds: Can’t wait to read this memoir.
Humphrey Ker: Yeah, it’s all going in.
Ryan Reynolds: Blood Alabaster, the Wrexham Sh– Show, by Humphrey Ker.
Humphrey Ker: Yes, no, I mean listen, the opportunity that’s presented to the club by having these guys involved — and I would only be involved because they are — it t is extraordinary. The guys have not yet been able to visit Wrexham, and in a way, I’m very sad. Well, I’m sad for many, many reasons. One is that I don’t think they will quite have the before and after picture, those of us that did see the stadium, and the town, and the squad that we had, and things like that prior to their arrival. Because this is fifth tier English football. We’re a Welsh club playing in the English football system. And it is, we were away at Eastleigh, I think we had about 1, 800 people came out to watch. It’s smaller than a popular high school football team here.
Nisreene Atassi: Well, so what was the community’s reaction when they found out that Ryan and Rob had bought the team?
Humphrey Ker: Disbelief, fury that there was some kind of horrible trick being played giving way to a slow creeping sense of euphoria, if you can slowly creep into euphoria.
Nisreene Atassi: You definitely can.
Humphrey Ker: Yeah. Listen, people have been incredibly excited. One of the reasons why Wrexham, I think, was the team that the guys ended up choosing was because they had just been consistently kicked in the groin for a solid 15 years of slow, steady, inexorable decline. And we dropped out of the league, we had owners who had tried to sell the stadium to build a B & Q car park there. And they had been kept alive by people, literally, putting up the deeds to their houses as collateral to get a loan from a bank to buy the club off the previous owners. People sold cars, people did sponsored walks, they sweat blood to keep the team alive. But even that wasn’t enough. That was enough to put it on life support. And it really was on life support until the guys came in. And Coronavirus may have been the thing that would have killed it. But instead, it’s thriving. We are thriving. We’ve got a long way to go, but it’s the change around the place, it’s just unbelievable.
Nisreene Atassi: You guys typically buy things for millions of dollars sight unseen, just like go in and you’re like, your realtors, like text me the pictures. You’re like, ” I’ll take it,” you know?
Ryan Reynolds: Not high rollers like that. No.
Ryan Reynolds: Yeah. We like to kick tires.
Nisreene Atassi: All right.
Rob McElhenney: But this is why it was so important to have Humphrey too, who has zero experience running a professional football team.
Nisreene Atassi: Are you sure you want that on the show?
Humphrey Ker: I have even less now than I did-
Nisreene Atassi: Because I actually felt like, I thought Humphrey was the only one who had the experience, but now it’s not really-
Humphrey Ker: I have an authoritative British accent.
Ryan Reynolds: He does. And a very measured-
Humphrey Ker: But it does not work in Britain, doesn’t work in Britain. As soon as I get over there, they’re like f— this guy, f—!
Nisreene Atassi: Yeah.
Rob McElhenney: No, we knew that we could trust him implicitly. We couldn’t be there because of our schedules, because of COVID for quite some time, that we knew we needed to have somebody who could oversee everything. And we would hire the people who knew exactly how to run football clubs. But we didn’t know any of those people. We know Humphrey, and we know we can trust him.
Nisreene Atassi: Yeah, that’s fair. I feel like that’s good enough. Well, so the season is underway. You’ve got some shiny new jerseys. I’m definitely biased, but I definitely think that they’re probably the best Wrexham jerseys I’ve seen.
Ryan Reynolds: Thank you.
Nisreene Atassi: For those of you who don’t know, Expedia is a jersey sponsor for Wrexham. So, we’re really excited about it. But to be honest, people often ask me, why is Expedia such a big fan of football? Because we’re also the sponsor of Liverpool. We also sponsor the UEFA Champions League. We’ll see if we can put in a good word for you guys. But we’ll see. But the reality is why we do this is because travel is a huge part of how people go and experience events. And they do travel to go to a specific live music show, or to see their favorite team play, and it’s all because they’re really, really passionate about it. And for the really hardcore intense fans, they’ll do anything to see their favorite team, or favorite band play. So, it makes a lot of sense because travelers are often really obsessed, and sports fans, and music fans are often, they have this shared obsession, which I think is really interesting. I’m curious for the both of you, do you have any sporting team or band that you’re really obsessed with, that you will travel to see?
Rob McElhenney: Yes. The Philadelphia Eagles are the American football team of which I fell in love with when I was a very young person in Philadelphia. And so, I go back at least once a year to Philly to go watch them play.
Nisreene Atassi: Nice, Ryan, what about you? I actually heard that you were a K- pop fan. So, I have this vision of you of traveling back to Asia to see the fans.
Ryan Reynolds: I do like K- pop. I like K- pop not just musically, but culturally. I think it’s really interesting and innovative. But no, music, yeah, I will travel to see… not so much sports stuff, but I’ll travel to see, there’s a band I’ve loved for a long, long time, close to 15, 20 years now, called The National, love them.
Nisreene Atassi: Yeah, they’re good.
Ryan Reynolds: I’ll travel around and see some of their shows. They just have a huge catalogue. So, they switch it up for different shows, and I’m always a huge appreciator of those guys.
Nisreene Atassi: Humphrey, do you think Wrexham has absolutely obsessed fans that are going to follow the team anywhere they go?
Humphrey Ker: I don’t think, I know. We started our season with two away games, and I believe on both occasions, we have outnumbered the home fans.
Nisreene Atassi: That’s pretty good, actually.
Humphrey Ker: Yeah.
Nisreene Atassi: Yeah, that’s pretty good.
Rob McElhenney: And this is a huge initiative for us. What we’re trying to do is to grow the exposure of the club, not just for northern Wales, but for people all over the world. And we hope that the documentary is going to do that. We hope that outreach can do that. And look, everybody who loves football already has a club. But what I found is that people will oftentimes have two clubs. And now we’d also like to introduce Wrexham as maybe people’s first club. And the racecourse ground, which is where we play, by the time we’re finished with our renovations, we’ll be able to fit 11,000 people there, something like that.
Humphrey Ker: Yeah. Currently, it’s at about 10, 000 now. It’s slightly reduced from that because of safety measures because one of the joys of English football is you need to keep home and away fans away from each other. Because they sometimes have… disagreements.
Nisreene Atassi: Yeah, definitely. Separate entrances, delayed exits. Yeah.
Humphrey Ker: There’s a little bit of that. Yeah, but we, listen, there are plans afoot for us to renovate. We’re currently only three sides of the stadium because one end is a bit dilapidated, not safe. But the intention is to replace that with a 5, 000- seat stand, or 5, 000- seat plus.
Ryan Reynolds: Also, the oldest stadium, football stadium.
Humphrey Ker: Oldest international football stadium still in operation.
Nisreene Atassi: Yeah, that’s incredible. Yeah. Do you guys do tours and stuff?
Humphrey Ker: We do during normal times. Obviously, one of the weird parts of this whole adventure is that we have entered into it during the global pandemic. And so, we haven’t had the standard stadium operations for a couple of years, but yeah, people come. It has a very fine historical tradition. The new Welsh Museum of Football is opening in town very shortly.
Nisreene Atassi: That’s nice.
Humphrey Ker: Yeah. I think, hopefully, it will become a bit of a mecca for football fans in the same way you were saying that your husband, obviously, has been to Parc des Princes , and Camp Nou, and places like that.
Nisreene Atassi: Yeah, we’ll add it to the list. So, Rob and Ryan, you guys have admittedly said that you’re still learning all about European football, and all the things that come along with it. But one of the really interesting things that I don’t think Americans realize is just how many tiers of professional football there are in Europe, but more specifically, the UK.
Humphrey Ker: At our level, we’re a fully professional team. There are teams in our division who are semiprofessional. So, those are guys that are working as milkmen in the morning, and then coming into training, and then playing. But as you go down below, a level below us, there’s a couple of professional teams, a few more semi- professional. And then, once you get down to about tier eight, it stops being paid. It’s just these are guys who take it real seriously.
Nisreene Atassi: So, Wrexham is in the fifth tier and-
Rob McElhenney: For now.
Humphrey Ker: For now.
Nisreene Atassi: For now.
Ryan Reynolds: At the end of the day, that’s our… our all- encompassing plan is just to win. That is it. At the end of the day, that’s all that really matters to the supporters, that also really matters to the infrastructure of the club, it’s win, come back, win.
Nisreene Atassi: Because that’s a really big deal to the community to get promoted to the next league, right?
Ryan Reynolds: Huge.
Humphrey Ker: Huge
Nisreene Atassi: Yes.
Ryan Reynolds: It cannot be underestimated, the effect of that.
Humphrey Ker: So, we have one tier below, what is known as the league, despite the fact, we are also in a league. But there’s 92 clubs that are in the English Football Leagues, it’s called. So, being within those 92 teams is seen as ‘oh, you’re a proper football club.’ Now, down on our level, Wrexham, we were in the league for 100 years before we dropped out of it. And there are other teams, Grimsby Town, South End, other teams that are traditional league football clubs above us. But not having league status is the ultimate ignominy.
Nisreene Atassi: Yeah. I saw an interview where they were interviewing some of the people on Wrexham, and they all talked about that. And they were like, ” It’s been 14 years, we deserve to go back.” So, it feels like just they so much rides on that for them as the community, that it just really speaks and reinforces the passion and the drama that I think European football really brings.
Ryan Reynolds: Yeah. And it raises the stakes in unusual ways, as well. We’ve really outfitted Phil Parkinson, who was leading our team, in every way that he’s asked. And his asks are never unreasonable. We’re always looking at sustainability and value for the club, like if Rob and I are hit by lightning tomorrow, the club needs to still be able to sustain itself. So, you can’t just put your finger on the scale and say, ” Okay, well, what do we need to do to get Messi here?” That’s not a long- term strategy. That’s an idiotic strategy. We feel like we’ve outfitted the team to, or set them up for success, and that also raises the stakes, because if we’re not promoted, that’s nerve racking. And if we’re not promoted, if we’re not in the playoffs, we really all got to go back to the drawing board, and reexamine how we’re approaching this. So, there’s a lot at stake. It’s exciting. It’s nerve racking, but at the end of the day, we’re living for these matches.
Nisreene Atassi: Yeah, well, that’s exciting. So, you haven’t been to Wrexham yet. What’s the plan? Are you planning to go? You think you’re going to be able to make it there anytime soon?
Rob McElhenney: Well, we have been planning to go for many months. If you would have asked us how many times we had been to Wrexham, maybe this time, 10 months ago, we would assume it would have been three or four. The truth of the matter is, we’re obviously still in the middle of a pandemic, which has affected so many different things.
Not just travel, but also our production schedules. So, they continue to get pushed, and then we’ve set dates, and then it becomes a little bit more difficult. But as of now, we do have a plan to be there in the fall.
Nisreene Atassi: Is your plan to go because you think it’s going to be really meaningful for the community, or do you just want to see the space? How do you plan on engaging with the fans when you first get there?
Ryan Reynolds: I can only speak for me. I’m just super curious, and excited to be a part of that community, or see it. And to a certain degree, immerse ourselves in it. We’ve always said we’re not here to drag Wrexham into our story. We’d like to be a part of Wrexham’s story. So, we’re not going to show up in some weird grandstanding tour of Wrexham, we just-
Nisreene Atassi: Like a parade down the main street?
Ryan Reynolds: Yeah. Both Rob and I, yeah, it’s not quite the — But Rob and I, both tend to be pretty low key. Our hope is that we would have… even when we were trying to take stewardship of the team, we would have hoped to be having a drink with many of the townsfolk that live there, and many of the people in the community, and those that have been a part of the Wrexham Supporters Trust to that point. So, we have a lot of makeups to do. And for us, it’s going to be exciting to just really just to be on the pitch at the racecourse ground. That’s it.
Nisreene Atassi: But your cardboard cutouts went to Wrexham.
Ryan Reynolds: Did they?
Rob McElhenney: They made the-
Nisreene Atassi: They made a tour of the town and people referred to you as the guy with the muscles. That’s a real bonus. I’m pointing at Rob, just so the listeners know.
Ryan Reynolds: Rob is very muscular.
Nisreene Atassi: They did know who you were. One lady actually goes, ” Oh, yeah, that’s Ryan Reynolds, and that’s his friend.”
Rob McElhenney: Yeah. Yeah, I get that.
Nisreene Atassi: But I was like, ” Oh, they’ll learn, they’ll learn.”
Humphrey Ker: But the good news was that the cardboard cutouts were not to scale. So, you’re both the same height.
Rob McElhenney: I’ll take that as well.
Nisreene Atassi: Yeah.
Rob McElhenney: Wait, so I was the same height and the same-
Humphrey Ker: You’re the same height as Ryan and more muscular.
Ryan Reynolds: So, yeah, you’re about 280, so you’re 6’3″, 280, wow, can I ask for more?
Rob McElhenney: I can’t ask for anything more.
Nisreene Atassi: Yeah. All right.
Humphrey Ker: It’s going to be a big letdown.
Nisreene Atassi: Nice. Well, okay, everyone. That was just a quick initial peek behind the curtain of the, I guess, we’ll call it a well- oiled machine for right now, of the Wrexham A. F. C. ownership. When we come back, we’re going to dig in a little bit more into what makes this town so unique, so stay with us.
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Nisreene Atassi: We are back with Rob McElhenney and Ryan Reynolds, the proud owners of Wrexham A. F. C. Also, here with us today is Humphrey Ker, the executive director of the club. All right, so before the break, we were talking a little bit about traveling to see games, and music, and things like that. But I’m guessing Rob and Ryan, that you guys have been able to travel a ton for your work.
Obviously, this past year with the pandemic, we’ll put that aside. But I’m sure you’ve gotten to have some really amazing experiences. How would you say that travel has really impacted your lives? Rob, why don’t you go first?
Rob McElhenney: We shoot our television series here in Los Angeles. So, we don’t travel for work, but we do travel for pleasure.
Nisreene Atassi: Okay. Even better. Yeah.
Rob McElhenney: Yeah. And one of the great things about living in California is that Mexico is so close, and we love to travel to Mexico, and we’ve been there 50 times. And it’s such a great experience for me, personally, of course, but also for my kids. So, growing up in Philadelphia, we didn’t travel very much. We just simply didn’t have the means at the time. And so, I’d never been on an airplane, I think, I was 20 before I was at that time. And so, I want to make sure that my kids get the opportunity to experience other cultures. For us, travel is just an opportunity for all of us to expand our horizons. But for them, to get to do these things that I never got to do as a kid is a dream.
Nisreene Atassi: Yeah, that’s amazing. Ryan, what about you? You travel a lot?
Ryan Reynolds: I do. Oh, boy. My life is a bit of a love letter to travel. My whole life, I’ve been… in fact, when I started, long ago, I used to live in Los Angeles before I moved to New York. I used to work at the soundstage just about 100 yards from here. And it was a sitcom called Two Guys, A Girl and a Pizza Place. And I noticed that-
Nisreene Atassi: Seen that, yeah, great show.
Ryan Reynolds: Thank you. The way it worked back then was that, the sitcoms are a silly schedule. You’d work six months, and then you’d be off the rest of the year. And most actors would go, “Okay, the rest of the year, I’m going to go get a movie. I’m going to go do…” I would just backpack. I would take my winnings from working on this TV show at 19, or 20 years old, or however old I was. And I would go backpack all over the planet, and I would stay in hostels, and I would just immerse myself in cultures. And then, as I got older, and I was lucky enough to actually be a part of moviemaking, and particularly, the last 10 years, movies have really left California, and you’re shooting… oftentimes, you’re shooting in Croatia, London. I’ve shot in the Middle East, and my children have come with me, and like Rob, I love this idea that I’m able to… because we not only go on location, we immerse ourselves there. I’m not staying at hotels. I’m getting an apartment. When I go shoot something like a film, it’s usually five, six months of shooting. And so, my kids will come, my wife, we’ll all go, and we will live there. And my kids have been to the Middle East. They’ve tried Middle East cuisine. We made sure that they get a sample of that, we’ve lived in Italy, we’ve lived in London, Paris, and all these amazing, Croatia, Australia. My kids, before they were four years old each, had been to more places than I’ve been to by the time I was 20, 25.
Nisreene Atassi: That’s amazing. Do you have a favorite place that you like to go? Any of the places that you’ve been, have any really stood out to you?
Ryan Reynolds: Well, for me, I’m a big fan… I’m not a night owl, my wife is. But when we go traveling, sometimes jet lag is on our side. So, we’ll go sneak off and run through some like St. Mark’s Square in Venice, but at 2:00 and 3: 00 in the morning, love that. I love being in those places.
Nisreene Atassi: That’s amazing.
Ryan Reynolds: They’re empty out, t here’re no tourists. Paris is the same. We’ll sneak out at 2: 00 or 3: 00 in the morning, and just go wander around the Eiffel Tower, and wander around some of the tourist spots, but also, just some of the sweet little cobblestone alleyways. We’re lucky to get to do that.
Nisreene Atassi: That’s a great tip, actually.
Humphrey Ker: What an irritatingly romantic response.
Ryan Reynolds: Yeah.
Humphrey Ker: God, come on, mate, give us a chance.
Ryan Reynolds: Sorry. Sorry, guys.
Nisreene Atassi: Sorry, Humphrey, sorry.
Humphrey Ker: I go to the malls. Megan and I, we go to the malls , all your favorites are there, McDonalds, it’s all there.
Nisreene Atassi: You buy your wife a hot pretzel with a dipping sauce, that’s beautiful.
Humphrey Ker: That’s enough for her. Plenty.
Nisreene Atassi: That is love. Well, let’s talk a little bit about Wrexham. It’s a small town in Wales, not too far from Liverpool, actually, and a couple hours drive from London. So, it’s not totally out in the middle of nowhere. I actually was looking at pictures, and googling it, and it seemed like it had that really nice quintessential European small town look to it. And that it was almost like what you might see in the movies or something like that. I’m curious, I guess either one of you can answer this question, would you describe Wrexham as a picture perfect European small town based on either what you’ve seen in pictures or from going there, Humphrey?
Rob McElhenney: Well, I can say from my perspective, because… and I can’t speak for Ryan, but we only see photographs and some video, obviously. And it just looks absolutely picturesque in so many different ways. But then also, when you get onto the streets, and you start meeting some of the people, you realize like, yes, just like anywhere else. To me, again, it reminds me a lot of Philadelphia and the people because that’s what I’m most interested in. So, the typography looks, yes, like a picturesque well, ure, Middle English town. And I think there’s a lot of like, what’s that one area, it has the ruins up there at the top?
Humphrey Ker: Well, so Wrexham, confusingly, in the way that we like to do things in the UK is both a town, but also a county.
Nisreene Atassi: Oh, boy, here we go. okay.
Humphrey Ker: The town has seen better days. No, come on now, come on now.
Ryan Reynolds: Sorry, I passed out there.
Humphrey Ker: Listen, we all had to see you guys skipping hand in hand around the Eiffel Tower. It’s time for some real talk-
Ryan Reynolds: Yeah, let’s go.
Humphrey Ker: … about geographical locations in North Wales. Well, yes, so Wrexham, the town has seen better days. I’ll be honest that. I think anyone from Wrexham would agree with that because it’s been through a tough time. It’s, again, one of the reasons why the football team has declined, the town has declined somewhat. It used to be a big brewery town, big steel town, big coal town.
A lot of those jobs have gone away, and they have been slow to be replaced. North Wales and the county of Wrexham around Wrexham is stunning. And there’s some real Game of Thrones sh–, if you will.
Nisreene Atassi: Oh, okay. Yeah.
Humphrey Ker: So, the ruins that Rob is referring to is Dinas Brân, which is a mountaintop castle that was built by Owein the Third, or some local Welsh king in the 1200s. They built on top of the mountain, then the English came, and they were like, ” we can’t let this fall into English hands.” So, they burnt it down the year after they built it.
Ryan Reynolds: Petty, that’s petty.
Nisreene Atassi: Yeah, that is petty.
Humphrey Ker: Classic defensive maneuver. And didn’t use the castle at all, just built it, and burnt it. But that is in Llangollen, which is a town that is very close, but yes.
Nisreene Atassi: Say that one more time.
Humphrey Ker: Llangollen.
Nisreene Atassi: That’s good. You’re good at that.
Humphrey Ker: Bear in mind, Wales, they speak a whole different language. And we’re a very proudly bilingual football clubs. So, all of our signage is in English and Welsh.
Nisreene Atassi: Lovely. That’s great.
Humphrey Ker: Yeah. Llangollen is a UNESCO World Heritage site for being particularly beautiful. There is the, I’m going to pronounce this wrong, Pontcysyllte aqueduct there. It’s like a world- famous incredible canal system. It’s very, very beautiful around Wrexham. Wrexham Town Center has seen better days. We are hoping to change that. These are soon to be the better days that it will see.
Nisreene Atassi: Definitely, all right. So, a big part of football is the pub that you choose to go and watch the game at if you can’t make it into the stadium. And now, also come becomes a really big deal with the fans, and the out of towners, and things like that, because they’ve got to be separated. Rob, you know the pub scene quite well, right? So, what are you going to look for? Wait, I won’t ask you to pick a bar in Wrexham because you-
Rob McElhenney: Oh, I’m going to pick a bar.
Nisreene Atassi: You’re going to pick a bar? You know what, t ell me about what you look for to pick the right pub, and then which one you’ve chosen.
Rob McElhenney: To me, it’s just all about the people. So, I just want to go in there, and know that I can find people that again, share my love for conversation, share my love for football, and that we can all enjoy the fact that we’re just getting hammered.
Nisreene Atassi: What are you drinking at the pub then?
Rob McElhenney: Aviation Gin.
Nisreene Atassi: Aviation Gin.
Humphrey Ker: Yeah.
Ryan Reynolds: Sure.
Nisreene Atassi: Straight up?
Humphrey Ker: And Wrexham Lager.
Nisreene Atassi: Martini?
Ryan Reynolds: Away gin or home gin.
Rob McElhenney: Yeah. What’s the temperature outside?
Nisreene Atassi: It’s a crisp 60 degrees Fahrenheit.
Rob McElhenney: Then, I’m going to go up. I’m going to go martini, with a little-
Nisreene Atassi: In a pub? I feel like they might make fun of you.
Rob McElhenney: I don’t give a f—! I’m in a Welsh pub, I’m ready to rock!
Nisreene Atassi: I’ll be honest. Yeah. I feel like anything besides a light pilsner might be just-
Rob McElhenney: I feel like the thing went off the rails. We might as well-
Ryan Reynolds: Yeah, whatever.
Nisreene Atassi: You’ll hear a whole slew of Welsh vulgar phrases, and you won’t understand what they are.
Ryan Reynolds: I’m eating a urinal cake and drinking some Pine Sol . That’s what I’m doing.
Nisreene Atassi: Okay, Rob, so you’re pulling up to the bar, what are you going to order?
Rob McElhenney: Yeah. So, I believe my first stop is when we get to Wrexham, there’s going to be either The Turf club or The Fat Boar, which is also something I’ve been reading about, and hearing about quite a bit. And I’m going to go in there, and the first thing I’m going to order is a Wrexham Lager. Yes.
Nisreene Atassi: I didn’t know that Wrexham has its own-
Ryan Reynolds: It does, it has its own lager.
Nisreene Atassi: Wow.
Humphrey Ker: Oldest lager in the UK.
Nisreene Atassi: Is it good?
Humphrey Ker: It is, yeah.
Nisreene Atassi: Yeah. Okay.
Humphrey Ker: Crisp, light, fizzy. That’s a thing that lager is, right?
Nisreene Atassi: That sounds delicious.
Rob McElhenney: Then, I will have a gin and tonic. Aviation Gin
Nisreene Atassi: Okay, that’s fair. Ryan, what about you?
Ryan Reynolds: We should make Wrexham La-gin. So, it’s like a lager mixed with gin. No? Moving on.
Nisreene Atassi: That’s an experiment. That’s an experiment.
Ryan Reynolds: Similarly, I think it’s… The Fat Boar and The Turf, right? It’s both, really, in a night. It’s not really a pub crawl. It’s just like a pub shift.
Humphrey Ker: Yeah, Chequers Bar, in the center of town.
Ryan Reynolds: Oh, yeah, there’s that too. As soon as we get there , I feel like we should spend the night just on the field, on the turf, at the racecourse.
Nisreene Atassi: I’ve got an idea for, you guys. We’ll list it on Expedia for one day only, camping out under the stars with Ryan and Rob.
Ryan Reynolds: At the Racecourse Ground.
Nisreene Atassi: Yeah.
Ryan Reynolds: Rob has a beautiful voice. He can sing and play guitar.
Nisreene Atassi: I know. I’ve seen the TikTok video. Gorgeous.
Rob McElhenney: Thank you.
Nisreene Atassi: Yeah.
Ryan Reynolds: He’ll haze the hell out of his wife while she tries to sing along, Kaitlin. But yeah, no, I think that the plan for me. And I would, definitely, I know it sounds like a line. I own Aviation Gin, but I drank it before I owned it.
Nisreene Atassi: Sure.
Ryan Reynolds: So, that’s my drink. So, I would have an Aviation Gin, probably a Negroni or just like an Aviation soda. A little lime or lemon.
Nisreene Atassi: That’s nice. Nice drink.
Rob McElhenney: Is that how you drink it? Soda?
Ryan Reynolds: Yeah, I’d just drink a soda. That’s how I like it.
Rob McElhenney: No carbs.
Nisreene Atassi: Yeah, exactly. Got to stay trim.
Ryan Reynolds: Hey, got to keep this joke going.
Nisreene Atassi: Yeah, can’t have it. All right, Humphrey.
Humphrey Ker: Yeah.
Nisreene Atassi: Hopefully, you can give me a usable answer here on this one, but we’re going to talk about-
Ryan Reynolds: Wow, I feel like that was directed at us.
Rob McElhenney: That sounds Wrexham.
Nisreene Atassi: When people are coming to Wrexham for a game, where are you going to tell them to go and stay?
Humphrey Ker: Well, there’s lots of great, great places, obviously. In town, we’ve got a number of the classic chains, Ramada, et cetera, which are affordable, convenient, all that kind of stuff. In terms of a little bit further afield, I know that there are those like, one of the things that north Wales has got an abundance is there’s a fantastic like gastropub/ inn type things. So, there’s any number of those. Wynnstay Arms in the center of town is a big one.
Ryan Reynolds: Rob has got a real thing about thread count. What’s that like?
Humphrey Ker: I’ve yet to do-
Ryan Reynolds: Rob won’t sleep on anything less than 500.
Humphrey Ker: … due diligence and sample every bed in town and I am-
Rob McElhenney: But you will get on that, though.
Humphrey Ker: Yeah, yeah.
Nisreene Atassi: Well, we’ve got a dedicated page on Expedia for all things Wrexham. So. we’re going to put a link to that in the show notes for people start planning their trips.
Ryan Reynolds: I’m not even kidding. I will actually use that link.
Nisreene Atassi: Yeah, good.
Rob McElhenney: We do have to figure out where we’re going to stay when we get out there.
Humphrey Ker: We do.
Nisreene Atassi: Okay. Well, that’s no problem. We’ve curated the list for you already. Done, done and dusted.
Ryan Reynolds: Thank you, Expedia.
Nisreene Atassi: All right. What else are we going to tell people to do? They’re obviously going to come. They’re going to catch a game. They’re going to get blacked out at the local pub. Maybe if they’re not hung over, they’ll go see the ruins the next day. What else is that? Is that it? Is that a trip? Do they do a road trip to Liverpool? What’s the plan?
Humphrey Ker: This is really good. This may be another one that’s going to get me canceled. Chester, well worth the visit.
Nisreene Atassi: Yeah, I have. Yeah.
Ryan Reynolds: Humphrey, what are you doing?
Humphrey Ker: Listen, listen, stay away from the football club. Stay away from the football club. That’s trash. The rest of Chester, very nice, very ancient city, fantastic walls built by the Romans. There is, again, fantastic cathedrals, as great as some of this.
Nisreene Atassi: The whole area sounds like a-
Humphrey Ker: If you’re talking about a day trip away from Wrexham, which I strongly advise against, because Wrexham is fabulous. You can do everything you want to do there. It’s worth going to Chester, if only to flip off the stadium, do the stadium.
Nisreene Atassi: Honestly, totally worth it, I feel like. What other places in the UK have you guys been to you that you particularly love?
Ryan Reynolds: I once did a… if you don’t mind if I jump in, I once did a road trip. I’m much better on a motorcycle in life than I am in a car.
Nisreene Atassi: Yeah, me too.
Ryan Reynolds: Especially, when I’m going to the UK. Because you can just aim for the middle. But in a car, I rented a car years ago when I was probably about 24, and I drove from London to Bath, Bath [British accent], I don’t know how-
Nisreene Atassi: Which is it, Humphrey?
Humphrey Ker: Bath.
Nisreene Atassi: Bath.
Ryan Reynolds: Bath. And I lost all the mirrors on that car. I f—ked that thing up terribly. I remember laughing to myself, because it was one of the few times in my life, I’ve said yes, I’d like the full insurance, please, all of it.
Nisreene Atassi: Yeah, smart move.
Ryan Reynolds: Yeah. And I lost the sideview mirrors almost instantly. The roads are very narrow, too, on the way to Bath.
Nisreene Atassi: Whatever you’re going to tell yourself, yeah.
Ryan Reynolds: Yeah. But that was an especially interesting and invigorating trip. I did love… this sounds a little morbid, so gird your loins here, everyone. I love stopping at cemeteries along the way. Because growing up in Canada, particularly the west coast of Canada, the history is not going to go too far beyond a couple hundred years. There, you’re looking at gravestones.
Nisreene Atassi: Centuries.
Ryan Reynolds: Centuries, and centuries, and centuries old. So, I just found that to be really fascinating.
Nisreene Atassi: That is fascinating. Rob, what about you? Do you have a favorite UK spot that you like to head to, or a good memory of UK travel?
Rob McElhenney: Yes. Well, for years, I would… I think four years in a row, when they were shooting Game of Thrones, I’m very friendly with the two gentlemen that created that show. And so, I would go there once a year to visit them while they were shooting, to Belfast.
Nisreene Atassi: Oh, that’s beautiful.
Ryan Reynolds: Amazing.
Rob McElhenney: Yeah. It was amazing. And each year, I would bring either a group of my family members, or a group of guys that I grew up with, and we would go, and just have fun up in Northern Ireland. Yeah.
Nisreene Atassi: That’s great. Yeah, that sounds like a great trip. All right. Well, before we wrap up, I actually want to talk about your hometowns really quickly. Ryan, you’re from Vancouver.
Ryan Reynolds: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada.
Nisreene Atassi: So, tell me, do you have a favorite place to stay, and a favorite restaurant in Vancouver?
Ryan Reynolds: Oh, boy. Favorite place to stay in Vancouver? Probably the Rosewood Georgia hotel. When I shoot movies, I stay there are a lot.
Nisreene Atassi: Yeah. I had drinks there.
Ryan Reynolds: Oh really?
Nisreene Atassi: Yeah.
Ryan Reynolds: Yeah. It’s a beautiful hotel. One of my favorite places to stay just in general though, is a place called the Wickaninnish Inn on Vancouver Island.
Nisreene Atassi: One more time.
Ryan Reynolds: Wickaninnish Inn.
Nisreene Atassi: That’s very Canadian.
Ryan Reynolds: I know. It’s an Indigenous name. It’s First Nations. It’s one of the most beautiful hotels, I think, in the world. Right on the beach. Stunning. It’s near Tofino in Vancouver Island, which is also a popular destination for a lot of people. So, you can’t really go wrong with Vancouver or British Columbia in general. It’s one of the most spectacular places you’ll ever see. Yeah.
Nisreene Atassi: Rob, what about you? Obviously, we’re going to need a cheesesteak recommendation, but also, tell me where you like to stay, or where would you tell people say when they’re going to Philly?
Ryan Reynolds: Aren’t there the two rival cheesesteak places in Philly?
Rob McElhenney: Pat’s and Geno’s are the ones that are right across the street from each other. That’s the neighborhood I grew up in.
Ryan Reynolds: When I went there, I went and ate both in the same night.
Nisreene Atassi: I feel like that’s-
Ryan Reynolds: Because I’m nothing if not diplomatic.
Nisreene Atassi: Yeah. What did you think?
Ryan Reynolds: Oh, God, now, this, I’m about to Humphrey myself here. I like Geno’s.
Humphrey Ker: Let’s not use that.
Ryan Reynolds: Yeah.
Nisreene Atassi: Why do you seem so surprised by that, Rob?
Rob McElhenney: I’m surprised that if he ate two of them.. within an hour of one another?
Nisreene Atassi: Did you eat two or did you just eat a bite?
Ryan Reynolds: I didn’t eat the full ones. No, I had half of each.
Rob McElhenney: And how were your bowels later?
Ryan Reynolds: Well, I crapped like a live giraffe.
Rob McElhenney: Yeah, true.
Ryan Reynolds: Honestly, I was pretty fine. This is back when I was 28, resilient body, like that thing ran like a top.
Nisreene Atassi: Okay.
Rob McElhenney: I’ve had to transition to chicken cheesesteaks, which are equally delicious.
Nisreene Atassi: Lighter.
Rob McElhenney: Yeah. When I was younger, you can eat whatever you want. And for whatever reason, it’s a little bit more difficult for me to muscle down a cheesesteak, so I’ll go chicken cheesesteak, however-
Nisreene Atassi: Where are you getting it from then?
Rob McElhenney: I’m going to get it from a place called Jim’s on South Street. My favorite place to stay when I go back is at my mom’s house.
Nisreene Atassi: All right, can the listeners stay at your mom’s house?
Ryan Reynolds: So, anyone can stay at your mom’s house?
Rob McElhenney: Yeah, well-
Ryan Reynolds: I’ve met his mother, she’s lovely.
Nisreene Atassi: Yeah, I bet. I know, I got it.
Rob McElhenney: So, when we go back to shoot, we’ll stay in hotels. And we’ve stayed at a number of them. The Sofitel is an amazing place. But I have not been back since the new Four Seasons opened. Apparently, it’s incredible.
Nisreene Atassi: I bet.
Rob McElhenney: I have not been there yet. So, I’m looking forward to that.
Nisreene Atassi: So, we need to wrap up. But where are you guys traveling to next?
Rob McElhenney: Yeah. Wrexham is the next trip.
Ryan Reynolds: Me too. It’s the next big trip.
Rob McElhenney: I’m looking to get back down to South Carolina.
Nisreene Atassi: Yeah, nice.
Rob McElhenney: I’ve been spending some time in South Carolina. I have some friends down there. And I fell in love with it.
Nisreene Atassi: It feels like a good next option.
Ryan Reynolds: Humph?
Humphrey Ker: Ideally, well, definitely, Wrexham next, and then-
Rob McElhenney: I don’t know.
Ryan Reynolds: Bring your helmet.
Nisreene Atassi: Yeah, I can tell. I could tell by how-
Humphrey Ker: Looking forward to it .
Nisreene Atassi: Yeah, positive you are.
Humphrey Ker: But after that, we’re planning a trip, Budapest, Vienna, Munich, Nuremberg, Prague, Budapest, big loop.
Nisreene Atassi: You’re just getting after it.
Humphrey Ker: Driving, boating.
Nisreene Atassi: Amazing.
Ryan Reynolds: Wow, when?
Humphrey Ker: Hopefully, in early December.
Nisreene Atassi: Okay. That’s going to be fantastic.
Humphrey Ker: Pre-Christmas time.
Ryan Reynolds: It’s a nice time to travel, actually.
Humphrey Ker: Yeah.
Nisreene Atassi: Yeah.
Ryan Reynolds: We love traveling between US Thanksgiving and Christmas because it’s always like-
Nisreene Atassi: Yes. that is a fantastic time to travel.
Ryan Reynolds: … everything is available, and easy, and it’s so crowded.
Nisreene Atassi: Especially, international, great time.
Ryan Reynolds: Yeah.
Nisreene Atassi: All right. Well, time flies when we are talking to some absolutely amazing guests. Thank you to Ryan Reynolds, Rob McElhenney, and Humphrey Ker of Wrexham A. F. C. for joining us on Out Travel the System. It’s been a pleasure having you guys on the show today.
All right, well, you can keep up with the team’s quest for glory on the FX docuseries, Welcome to Wrexham coming out in early 2022. I’m Nisreene Atassi. This is Our Travel the System. Check out all of our back episodes for tips and tricks to make your next travel experience smooth sailing. Until then, happy travels.